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ocallamp
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Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 23:45 |
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Does anyone know of a small space heater that is MP compliant? I have an old ceramic one, but I have no idea how to tell if it uses IR heat.
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Maureen
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 23:50 |
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Any fan-based heater which doesn't have exposed elements would be fine.
For example, something like this would work well:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5799329
or even this
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=7768656
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magsmom
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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 06:31 |
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I am sure this is a very obvious MP non compliant item(s) - but just in case . . . .
1. Are heating pads ok to use?
2. I have seen heating pads, and other health accessories, massagers, & furniture that are now being enhanced with new technology - FAR heat as in the following "product description"
FAR-Infrared heat—which, unlike the light emitted by sun, is invisible to the human eye—is a safe light energy that is absorbed into the customized jade rollers. Since jade is known as a natural transmitter of Far-Infrared rays, the heat penetrates up to 3” deep into tired muscles to create a uniform warmth that is felt for up to one hour.
Edited Q: does these Infra red pose the same issues as those from the sun that we should avoid? Thanks
What should be our guidance on heating pads and such? Magsmom
Last edited on Sat Oct 4th, 2008 06:44 by magsmom
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 06:35 |
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Heating the skin and muscles may well increase the level of bug-killing in those tissues, increasing local IP. Otherwise anything not involving open elements should be fine.
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magsmom
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 00:05 |
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http://www.relaxtheback.com/therasage-healing-pad-product-6393871
I am trying to make sure I understand. It appears that the new heating pads with the FAR Infrared Technology is ok? {guessing FAR is a simulated version of infrared - -not sure}. [The heating pad plugs into wall as opposed to receiving any direct solar source heheheh ] Is this different from the infrared we are suppose to avoid?
Heating pads are not an 'open' source of heat as refernced to above Q on space heaters. Thanks for letting me know that regular heating pads are fine and may increase the bug killing / IP. . . .
Just that I modified my 10/4 post since the quick reply and just want to make sure it applies to this 'new technology' as well. As I do not want to compromise my MP progress as well the product can have quite a large investment price especially if choosing the full body lenght version. Not wanting to error on either front. Thank you so much for this reconfirmation. Magsmom
Last edited on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 00:06 by magsmom
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John McDonald
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 00:58 |
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Magsmom - answering per your PM: A hot pad or a hot tub or a hot room will all be fine respecting near infrared light. That is, the kind of infrared light that you will get from a hot pad will be biologically not-active with respect to making 1,25D. What it will do is warm you. That might feel dandy. But as TM has pointed out some people have discovered that heat can help to kill off microbes and hence to increase herxing. If you want that then it is good. If you don't want that then you might not enjoy it. There is only one way to find out; try it. Respecting the investment: if you find you don't much like heat then you need only wait. After some number of months of MP heat will not bother you so badly. But you can try the impact of heat before buying the pads nearly for free by taking a hot bath.
Oh, by the way; the jade stones stuff is all marketing hyperbole. When I want a hot pad I use a $24 electric model from the local drugstore or I use the microwave kind. Sometimes I slip one behind my back in my cold home office just so I can heat myself with a 75 watt electric hot pad in preference to a 1,200 watt space heater. I wouldn't purchase jade stones unless they were on a string intended for DW's lovely neck.
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magsmom
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 01:48 |
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Deb Grabetz
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 12:32 |
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John McDonald wrote: I wouldn't purchase jade stones unless they were on a string intended for DW's lovely neck.
My brother is a jeweler. I got a chuckle out of that one John!!!!
Early on in the MP, I found a lot of relief from a soak in a warm tub. It seemed to be immediate relief for me. We have a spa tub and the jets were also very helpful. There are the less expensive units that can be purchased and put in the tub that also give the effects of a spa. Not sure if my IP was worse from this or not--as I experienced such strong IP early on, so as John says it is trial and error. 
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Posted: Sat Feb 28th, 2009 16:10 |
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What about electric baseboard heaters such as this one. I am thinking of moving into a place that has these installed in each room (there's no other heating system in the house). Will these give off too much IR? I currently have electric forced-air.
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Chris
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Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2009 10:24 |
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The electric baseboard heater uses convection to circulate air.
The above is from the link you gave.
This is fine. It warms the air, just like your current system.
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marion villa
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Posted: Tue Mar 3rd, 2009 01:12 |
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hello all of you:
I have a gel pack which has a plug cord to the light,(this cord is dettachable) so it take about 15 minutes to get hot, but more than 10 hours to cold completely!
So i payed about 9 dollars in the wall mart to get it, and it has been very useful in this year of hard IPing...
I think I love that pack
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John McDonald
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Posted: Tue Mar 3rd, 2009 02:50 |
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The kind of infrared that makes us warm isn't a problem. The Earth actually glows brightly in the mid and far infrared but those wavelengths are biologically benign except for making us warm. It is the near infrared, where yellow turns into red and red starts turning deep and hard to see, infrared. The short wave stuff is probably biologically active. But even that isn't as tough on us as visible and UV light. So your wall heaters are absolutely fine.
If you had a radiant heater that you can see glowing orange-red, then maybe, not surely, but maybe you could have a problem. But an electric baseboard heater is no issue.
We don't need infrared to see. We can't see it. At best we can feel it on our skin but we can't see it. So the 907 NOIRs cut away the very nasty UV, and cuts away the difficult blue, and darkens the greens and yellows and reds, and cuts away the NIR. The importance of these goes in that order, nasty UV to difficult violet and blue, to yellow and red and nearly but not quite benign NIR. The longer wave heat type infrared isn't a problem.
http://www.latigooptics.com/spectrum_w_energy.jpg
-john
Last edited on Tue Mar 3rd, 2009 02:56 by John McDonald
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Adrianne
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Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2009 17:14 |
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This is really good information. Thank you, John! I have been avoiding my infrared heating pad as well as my infrared dome for fear that using them would cause a rise in 1,25D. FAR Infrared heat has been very soothing to me in the past and is usually a surefire way to put me to sleep. Since I have been struggling with really debilitating insomnia lately, I am relieved to find out that I can use these devices again. Time for a nap.........
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