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Sarah Jane
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 18:42 |
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My periods have significantly improved since starting the MP. It used to be that they would be about 22-23 days apart, drag on for 10-11 days, and be very painful. Now they're on a 25-26 day schedule, they only last about 3 days, and aren't very painful at all (though I'm now on pain meds for other reasons, so who knows). This is one of those blessings that I've noticed from the MP, though I usually forget to count it when I'm running through my mind all the IPs that I'm struggling with. 
I have had the 'swollen bladder' feeling, also, but luckily no leakage. And that's a fairly rare IP for me, though an uncomfortable one.
Weight has definitely been a bug issue for me. Last year at this time I was 20lbs heavier and nothing I did budged it at all. I did have the energy to run on the treadmill (good grief, where did that go?), but that and dietary changes didn't budge it at all. Then it just slowly started slipping off on its own, regardless of exercise or diet or any other factor I could think of (except the Th1). Unfortunately, it kept going even after I reached my ideal weight (I'm 5'7" and do best physically at 133lbs).
Even eating extra calories (making many in the house incredibly jealous  ), and doing only restorative yoga every day, my weight dropped to 128lbs. It stayed steady there from January until now, then just in the last week it's gone even lower, and I'm now down another pound and a half. I've had a lot of nausea and loss of appetite lately, and the extra calorie foods hadn't seemed to be working, so I stopped eating a bunch of them. Now, realizing that my weight is continuing to drop, and feeling as weak and physically fatigued as I do, I'll be adding more calories back into my diet in the hopes that it makes an effect of some kind.
So, yes, I definitely believe that weight gain, loss, or stagnancy is absolutely Th1 related. But as with other symptoms, I'm sure in time it will all balance out for all of us. 
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eClaire
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 18:52 |
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Sarah Jane,
My weight dropped like yours by 45 pounds (same no appetite as well) until I was underweight and once my IP started to stabilize I put on 7 lbs.
Unfortuantely, that's 3 more pounds than I like on my frame. I'm watching what I eat now because without the high IP, the days when I could eat what I wanted when I wanted are gone! And the CWD that remain still want me to pack on the weight. I ought to just eat what I want, but I bought new clothes because I needed them and have no in between clothes to fit!!! Luckily, I can wear the clothes that I bought with the added weight...but no more!
ClaireLast edited on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 20:35 by eClaire
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Juanita
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 19:56 |
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Reason #304 why I love the MP..... Prevention magazine keeps talking about how once you get over 40 years of age, you can expect a poochy belly and weight to become an issue as you grow larger and larger each year. It's an "age" thing.
But on the MP, I know it's a Th1 thing. So.... pthththththththt to them!!!
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Sarah Jane
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 20:22 |
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Ha! I dare you to write and tell them that. LOL
Claire, 4-5lbs really does make a difference, eh? Good luck keeping things where you want them.
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eClaire
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 20:44 |
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Prevention magazine UGH! Once where I would read medical related articles (trying to figure out what in the world was going on with me), I now realize how bad the research is that most recommendations are based on. Again I am reminded that I could do better with a practitioner who chanted and swung a dead chicken over his/her head. I have no tolerance now for the chatty little articles anywhere on "How to live longer," "How to improve vaginal dryness," "How to get shinier hair," yada, yada, yada!
Except for the fact that my muscles are not toned from years of lying around (and that's getting better), my figure is curvier and more attractive than it has ever been (even at light weights).
Yeah MP. Boo! to conventional wisdom in magazines like Prevention!!!
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Alayne
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 21:37 |
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Jacks lost about 30 lbs when he started going downhill and started the MP. It was pure muscle that he lost, as he'd always been lean. At 6', he weighed about 138 for three years.
December of 08, we decided to go gluten free to see if that would help. We'd noticed some neurological symptoms after eating or drinking products with gluten, so we thought perhaps his gut was also affected and he wasn't absorbing nutrients properly.
After 1.5-2 months, he gained 10 lbs! Not eating more or anything. Just avoiding certain foods. The weight's stayed on and his body doesn't have that angular bony look any longer. We're thinking he's now actually absorbing more of what he's eating.
At least he doesn't fit into my pants anymore either.
~Alayne
Edit: I realize that I just talked about a guy in the "Ladies Only..." LOL
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Sarah Jane
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 21:57 |
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LOL, Alayne! We do seem to get "off topic" so easily, don't we? Probably not a product of Th1 at all.....
I'm glad to hear that Jack is gaining some weight. That's so terribly skinny for a man of his height. Well, that would be skinny for men of most heights, but especially 6'. It's amazing what changes in your diet can do for you, eh?
Claire, it does seem that a lot of those articles are put together just for the mass-market appeal and not for any kind of real, intelligent education. And maybe drinking pomegranate juice everyday is the cure for what ails some people, but I tend to think that if pomegranate juice is solving your problems all by its little lonesome, then your problems are pretty minor.
And anyway, we're going to live longer, improve vaginal dryness, and get shinier hair all by sticking with the MP. 
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eClaire
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 21:59 |
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| Alayne, I'm glad to hear Jacks isn't fitting into your jeans any longer.... It'd get awfully crowded in there. * Ba bum pa. * Claire
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Alayne
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 22:16 |
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Well that made me laugh out loud Claire.
Yeah Sarah Jane, I'm thinking going off-topic may at times have nothing to do with Th1. Sometimes a desire to blurt is a just desire to blurt.
How's this for on-topic then? My periods have evened out on the MP. I can pretty much count on them coming within two days of my calculations each month. Prior to MP, they were getting pretty random and I was very perimenopausal.
The cramps got worse on the MP - more like when I was younger. I had to use Ibuprofen solidly for 3 days, but in the past months seem to only need it a few times.
However, this last period woke me up on the third day with contractions. Seriously. Contractions would start in the abdomen and lower back, increase in intensity, then ease. Then start again. Now that was really like my younger days. At first I was a little whizzed at having such a lousy night, then just accepted it for what it was and started finding the contractions interesting. (That's my new technique this year - trying to find things interesting instead of getting mad or upset about them!)
So, before I blurt again...
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Sarah Jane
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 22:50 |
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Alayne, I honestly think that 'blurting' should be on the IP list.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 03:34 |
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Sarah Jane, blurting is DEFINITELY on the IP list. There's been plenty of neuro blurting at this end of California. But, I like to think there's hurtful and pain in the butt blurting, versus funny, no ill will intended, and sweetly revealing blurting.
I think that even when all IP is gone, I may still blurt every now and again. The blurts'll just be softer and perhaps even entertaining and/or endearing.
Am I off-topic again? Sheesh!
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Sarah Jane
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 03:52 |
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I've already found your blurts endearing and entertaining!
Personally, I go through whole periods of time where I have absolutely no inner-monologue (like Austin Powers in the first movie when they defrost him). Everything I think will come out of my mouth, sometimes to the dismay of those around me, and sometimes to their entertainment. I suppose a blurt IP combined with a rage IP would be a bad thing, lol. I would say that I don't have many of those, but you'd probably have to ask my family. Ahahahaha.
(I guess we'll have to be off-topic together. *wink*)
Oh, Claire- I forgot to say that I also thought that your pants comment was hilarious!
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Caitiegirl
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 23:29 |
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I have a friend with a teenage son with a blurt and rage IP problem. It is really scary because then they tell you all the horrible things they are thinking of you 
Anyway I was having a lot of bladder issues last summer. My Gyn gave me a bladder diet which actually helped a lot (and yes Odette, wine was on the list of no-no's ). He also gave me Detrol, which I notice some members have used in the past although it is probably like everything else on this protocol - best if avoided. I did find the things on the list seemed to irritate my bladder so I limited them as much as I could and it seemed to help. Most of the foods on the list are pretty acidic like vinegar and mayonnaise. But others are more of a mystery like nuts and lima beans. I remember thinking this is so hard when you add in the MP diet requirements. But in the long run it was nice to sleep through the night. I hate that irritable bladder feeling.
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Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2009 05:52 |
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Well, seems it was IP. The bladder problem stopped on its own about two weeks ago. Then I went through a couple of days when I felt like I had my "young" bladder back with a strong, full flow of urine... robust would describe it best.
After those couple days, it seems to have settled down to a "regular" function, but better than before the IP. Now, when I wake to take my 6:00 a.m. meds, I don't bother getting up to go to the bathroom but just go right back to sleep for the rest of my morning.
If you'd ever told me I would go 9 - 10 hours without a bathroom run, I wouldn't have believed it.
dette
Oh, I have generally cut back on the wine, in a feast or famine way... but at least there's more famine on that front.
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Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2009 05:58 |
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I don't know what to think about th1 and weight. I suspect I gained the weight I did during the near year I've been on the MP, because my activity/exercise level went from high to near zilch (except for Pilates, which is for strength and toning, not cardio or weight loss). My diet changed some, but not enough.
Then there is the whole milk I had to start using. And the fish/seafood I stopped eating and substituted with red meat, chicken, lamb and pork. So, I do think activity level and diet have real impacts.
Now, just send some of that magic weight loss my way.
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Sarah Jane
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Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2009 17:17 |
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I'm glad to hear that your bladder IP passed, Odette! Yay for you!
I remember an article somewhere on the main site called, "Some bacteria make you fat, some make you thin," but I couldn't find that one directly when I went searching. I did find an article that has that phrase at the beginning, though it seems mostly about obesity: http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum37/9764.html
Then I found one called "I'm losing weight, what should I do?"
http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum32/5020.html
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Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2009 20:43 |
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Sarah Jane,
Maybe you were thinking of an article on Bacteriality.com?
Seems like Amy has written about the tie between infection and weight gain before.
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Posted: Wed Jul 15th, 2009 03:14 |
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Sarah Jane,
Was this the link you were thinking of:
http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum39/9391.html ?
It was under "Prof. Marshall's Perspective." ~Elizabeth
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Juanita
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Posted: Thu Jul 16th, 2009 18:40 |
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And then there's the breasts discussion..... may I say Ow? When was the last time your boobs felt comfortable?
Sheesh.
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Lee
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 13:31 |
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| Is anyone on ERT? I think a little estrogen cream is acceptable on the MP, correct? I am thinking of going on the insert estrogen tabs. I have been swimming in the evening in a salt water pool and the dryness I already have has increased ALOT!! I actually tore a little after swimming one evening just going up the steps to my room .... I would HATE to stop swimming ....but this dryness is at the ridiculous point. I have tried the OTC replenishing stuff ...NO luck! Thanks Ladies ... Lee
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