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Lottis
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Posted: Sat May 1st, 2010 08:51 |
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I am implementing the SCD diet into my lifestyle. 
This thread is for me and anybody else who is dealing with bowel disorders. I need your experiences and support.
http://www.scdiet.org/1about/scdwhatis.html
http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/
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Posted: Sat May 1st, 2010 16:30 |
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Hi Lottis!
I do struggle with GI symptoms. Was doing great recently and after 3 years was finally able to tolerate small amounts of raw veggies and fruits on a regular basis without diarrhea. Now am in runaway IPs, all kinds, and my poor old re-sected colon is tolerating only white rice plain chicken dry white toast and a little applesauce. Craving salt, which together with plenty of water is hopefully keeping me hydrated. I know from experience that pedialyte let alone gatorade, no matter how diluted, is a bad idea for me and would exacerbate the diarrhea. If unresolved soon I will get some bananas for potassium.
I've taken a quick look at the links you posted and have bookmarked them for possible future reference.
I've re-started Guaifenesin 200 mg Q6hrs which helped me out of a GI meltdown a year or so ago.
Best wishes, it's good to hear from you. DodyLast edited on Sat May 1st, 2010 16:32 by Dody
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Lottis
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Posted: Wed Jun 9th, 2010 09:31 |
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I am doing the diet about 70 percent of the time. It has made me feel better overall.
Sometimes I have cheated with gluten free flour and sometimes some oat crackers.
Once in a while I have let myself eat a little bit of wheat when not at home, like in a hamburger bun or so.
The daily diarrea, gas, pain and bloating is almost gone, except for when I cheat.
I found an interesting site which compares these kind of different low carbohydrate diets and the background of lectins.
http://www.krispin.com/lectin.htmlLast edited on Wed Jun 9th, 2010 09:32 by Lottis
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Lottis
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Posted: Wed Jun 9th, 2010 09:48 |
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I just have to quote a passage from the site I mentioned above about lectins.
Lectins and their possible involvement in degenerative and autoimmune disease is a relatively new science.
This report, as presented, is hypothesis, not yet fully supported by clinical trials and not yet at a stage where we have any idea of how to connect 'family' with lectin response. What facts can be supported include:
Proteins institute most allergic and antigenic responses.
Lectins are proteins found in large amounts in the foods as above.
Lectins are not easily removed from foods or rendered harmless to animals and humans.
Lectins from soy, peanut and other beans, wheat germ and wheat, milk, peanut oil (and perhaps other seed oils including soy oil) and nightshades, in a variety of clinical studies have shown various damage to gut lining, joints, kidney, pancreas and brain (even able to cross the blood-brain barrier).
Lectins found in peanut oil have been implicated in atherosclerosis. Leaving open the possibility that other seed oils contain damaging lectins and that polyunsaturation and free radicals may not be the full picture on the dangers of polyunsaturated fats.
You may react to lectin toxicity due to genetics, intensity of exposure, failure of immune factors to protect you, viral infection, bacterial infection or gut permeability induced by medication or infection.
Lectin toxicity (antigen-antibody response) can be 'sub-clinical' not showing obvious symptoms for many years.
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Posted: Sun Jun 13th, 2010 11:54 |
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Hi Lottis,
I was trying out the SCD to see if it helped, however I also missed out honey, fish and egg yolks.
I was slowly cutting out grainbased foods and high starch foods such as potatoes but read about the SCD and decided to completely eliminate them. I think it does help massively with the IBS type symptoms.
However i was doing some reading about lectins after your post. I've done a fair bit of reading on it and think im going to drop high lectin containing foods too. I've already dropped the grains and potatoes (a lot of nightshade plants) due to reading about the SCD but will experiment and try giving up - (most) legumes, (including peanuts which i eat a lot of), milk (iv had a thing for cream cheese recently).
Beans and lentils have always caused problems for my GI and after reading about lectins, am thinking there could be something to it.
I also feel better when eating natural meat proteins, egg whites, veg and occasionally lowsugar fruits. My only vice is things like nuts; almonds, cashews, pecans and brazil nuts.
Almond "flour" and coconut "flour" are really good occasional carb substitutes - and i prefer the taste of these to grains anyway plus they're much more filling so it's win-win!
Take care,
Treefrog
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Barney
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Posted: Thu Jun 17th, 2010 20:22 |
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Fish and egg yolks are not in the MP diet. I cheated w/seafood and fish and ended up raising my 25D by 12 points.
I tried egg yolks and ended up with diarreha (uncontrolled).
I would love to see all you young ladies post all this on your posts on the MP site....for all to learn.
HANG IN THERE, WE WILL MAKE IT!!!!BARNEY
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Posted: Thu Jun 17th, 2010 22:02 |
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Hi Barney,
Sorry but just to clarify i NEVER eat fish or egg yolks.
The SCD diet includes fish and eggs and i was just saying that i dont eat them, so therefore omit them from the diet.
Hope this is clearer - sorry to cause confusion!
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Posted: Fri Jun 18th, 2010 04:22 |
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Is there any way to find out which beans have more lectins and which have less lectins?
I can't remember now where I found the info, but quite a few years back I read something that indicated some beans could be better for the sort of person I am than others...
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Lottis
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Posted: Fri Jun 18th, 2010 06:45 |
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Kidney beans and Jack beans have most lectins of a type named PHA and ConA.
Lectins are not all bad or all good, we cannot live without them. They often have important good effects naturally, but in a disease, or allergy, those are the ones that does not work its ways normally.
PHA is one lectin that is high in kidney beans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytohaemagglutinin
And ConA is one that is high in Jack beans, for example. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConA
Plantago major, high in ConA, is a plant I often used as a child on wounds. http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/76500553/abstract
Those both lectin proteins are quite powerful in their effect on interferon gamma concentration, which is one of the key inflammatory mediators, often high in Th1 disease. http://www.lifexonline.com/luteolin_pdfs_1/Luteolin_Im_IFN-G_IL-5_49.pdf
And that in turn has effect on the regulations of lymphocytes to mitosis, for example.
One study (from 1977) showed that in some diseases, the body did not answer to the stimulation by these lectins like a healthy body would do and that was shown by a poor function of the lymphocytes. http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/112214369/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
So, we really do want many of the lectins and to have them work their real and proper effect. We must not avoid them, just figure out how to manage them to work better.
Last edited on Fri Jun 18th, 2010 07:02 by Lottis
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