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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 21:51 |
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John, there is an old document I put together in 2002 describing the Zeiss lenses I used during the 1990's which may give you some pointers to quality lenses which work  They can be ordered during your next trip to Europe
http://sarcinfo.com/zeiss.htm
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John McDonald
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 22:17 |
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Trevor, I recall that you did it right, with good expensive glass lenses. When I started out I didn't imagine that I would be light sensitive for 3 years and in truth I haven't been. In my case the part that made it hard to work was less than 4 months or so. Now on all but a very few days I can get by by working in a dimly lit room with my LCD turned to minimum brightness. Sometimes I have to turn up the LCD briefly to inspect some colors. There are still just a few days now and again when even the lowest LCD brightness will exhaust me after 6 hours or so. But by and large I think the NOIRs are a brilliant solution. I tend to break, scratch or lose about 2 per year but the price isn't too bad and the new pair is so beautifully scratch free.
Off topic a bit - but I am working on a seminar I will give in November. This plot here shows the spectral eye response of each of the 3 human cones. The overlap between the red and green cones makes one wonder how we can distinguish those colors at all. Evidently some time ago in evolution some extra red or the green cones were shifted ever so slightly in spectral response. When evolution coupled that modest shift to a magnificent image processing brain we get this sensation of glorious colors. But it makes you wonder what our color perception might be like a few hundred thousand years into the future if our red and green cones were just a little more separated. The body is just amazing.
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Joyful
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 22:23 |
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Thanks for the comments John. Especially about the optical quality changing between identical models. The same is true for identical shading. I purchased some larger 2% NoIR fitovers and they do not block as much light as the wrap-around pair I already own. It's not just the way they fit. I have held them both up to a light and can see the new fitovers allow more light through. But as you said, who can really complain considering the price!
As for the shape of the eye changing... it's true. I had two eye exams two weeks apart because my vision became so bad while on my month break from the protocol in May (inflammation, I'm sure).
When I explained to the optometrist that the vision was worse due to inflammation, he asked me to come back in two weeks (after I was back on the Benicar for about three weeks) to recheck. I even used frequent Minocycline/Benicar the day before the exam to be sure I had minimal inflammation.
Here are the numbers:
Exam #1: distance -1.25, reading: +2.00 [on 04Jun08]
Exam #2: distance -0.75, reading: +1.75 [on 18Jun08]
In passing I asked him about a vision improvement technique called the "Bates Method" ... he said it was a relaxation technique that might be helpful to me. It's interesting to think that my level of relaxation (or non-relaxation) can affect the quality of my vision as well.
Last edited on Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 22:30 by Joyful
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 23:20 |
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Those wanting a little more background in the color perception that John is talking about might like to read this article:
http://johncompton.pluggedin.kodak.com/default.asp?item=624876
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Sarah Jane
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Posted: Thu Aug 7th, 2008 19:47 |
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I've been on the MP just over a year, and I'm definitely less light sensitive now than I was when I started.
Initially, when we began to lower our D and darken our house, I became quite light sensitive, and it worsened when I began Benicar. I was wearing my 10% NoIRs in the house and my 2% outdoors were not strong enough on really bright days. For a brief time I even needed to layer two pairs of 2% over each other (thankfully, that level of sensitivity didn't last more than a few weeks).
After about a month, we had darkened our house enough that I no longer needed the 10% NoIRs indoors, and haven't needed them at all for watching TV or being on the computer (our screen brightnesses are turned all the way down, though).
At some point over last winter, the 2% NoIRs became way too dark for me to wear outdoors, so I switched to the 10% for outdoor use and that's what I'm still using.
My eyes fluctuate in sensitivity depending on how well I'm doing. Some days I'm alright with a brief bit of sunlight in unprotected eyes, other days it's like a dagger being thrust straight into my brain.
And I find that there's a huge difference between sunlight and artificial light. Even if the artificial light appears brighter than the day's sunlight, sunlight is always harder on my eyes. I will pull a dark curtain closed, and then turn on a light switch to work in the kitchen. Something that energy conservationalists would plotz at, I'm sure.  But the overhead light is just so much more soothing to my eyes, I can't afford not to do things that way.
I do find that I'm still sensitive to my skin being exposed to too much sunlight. I wear long dark pants, a dark long-sleeved shirt over a t-shirt, a big sunhat, and use K cream and zinc oxide on my exposed skin whenever I'm going outside. As long as I have all of those precautions in place, I'm able to be outside for an hour or more without trouble.
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 00:31 |
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Kelly,
I'm on the MP w/ kids also and 5 mos into it. I'm SO GLAD you started this topic as I've been pondering it myself for awhile and trying to encourage my family (and self) that " . . . THIS TOO SHALL PASS . . . .", but of course the question in all of our minds is "WHEN???"....
So, thanks & best w/ your planning!!
A.A.R.T.S.T.A. (Anxiously awaiting return to "sunnier times" also),
Elisabeth 
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 08:16 |
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Hi All,
Thanks for this very helpful thread. I have been on MP for approx 1 year. In the initial stages my eyes were very light sensitive. I've generally had to wear 2% or 10% wraparounds over 2% Noirs outdoors!
Ok, but what about progress? Well, I now no longer need to wear 10% to drive at night and wear the 40% instead. On cloudy days I only need the 2% outside. On brighter days I still need the fitovers over the wraparounds. Light sensitivity is easing overall though and sometimes I can take them off entirely in dim nighttime settings.
I believe that my skin is a lot less light sensitive than my eyes after some inadvertent experimentation (forgetting to put on cream, etc).
Can members please share more of their experiences about reduction in light sensitivty of the skin as I dearly look forward to the day when I can be more relaxed about covering all parts of my body when going outdoors!
I look forward to hearing from you... best, Cocoa
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 19:47 |
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| Cocoa, my own skin seemed to become less sensitive within a few months of starting MP. I don't parade around in short sleeves and shorts to test it but neither do I cover from toes to chin anymore. I am pushing close to 3 years on MP now. My primary or my limiting herx these days is various changing neuro herxing but it includes a couple of a few days each week when I am remarkably intolerant of light on my eyes compared to the last 2 years. So in my case the light sensitivity waxes and wanes in mysterious cycles, but generally gets better. In general my herxes start out being broad and become episodic and then the episodes separate in time and go away. Likewise my improvements start out episodic and eventually these become more frequent and merge, and then I own the improvement. It is all counter-intuitive and strange, but after nearly three years it seems to work this way. Your trajectory will be similar and also different than everyone else's. But you too and your family will likely see this sort of improvement.
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Posted: Sun Aug 10th, 2008 01:48 |
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Hi John,
Thanks very much for your respone. My light sensitivity on MP peaked about 2 or so months into it. I had to wear 2%fitovers over 2% wrapovers or I would cop a shocking headache and very sore eyes. I'm not sure what will happen this summer season when I have to step outdoors. I have also covered skin very diligently on the few outdoor outings I make.
However, once or twice, I have forgotten to zinc hands or neck and have in retrospect noticed no difference. I think for me that light on the eyes can seriously increase discomfort and exacerbate symptoms.
Yes, I too am finding that for the first few months it was all one big continuous Herx merged together. Now I seem to get spaces (although generally short-lived) between the Herxes which I hope is a sign of things to come.
Best regards, Cocoa
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