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suecat
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 15:32 |
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Hi All -
Need some urgent advice if in the know about hepa filter machines.
Must paint house as we may move but I'm leary of the fumes. The painter is
using voc - free paint for the walls. The oil base for the trim is unavoiadable.
Just occured to me a hepa filter machine might work at reducing the fumes....anybody have experince with these??????????
Respond ASAP as the painting starts tomorrow...my brain just kicked in today about the hepa filter machine.
Many thanks,
sue
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 16:13 |
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A Hepa filter will not help with MCS symptoms. An electrostatic filter (eg Ionic Breeze) often helps, but Hepa doesn't filter small enough particles to be of much help.
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suecat
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 16:18 |
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Thank you Trevor!!!!
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suecat
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 16:22 |
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An afterthought Trevor as I'm looking these up via the internet, would the ionic breeze being suitable for allergies and mcs?
thanks
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 16:58 |
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The Ionic Breeze doesn't have a fan. There are units with electrostatic filter cells available from Sears, inter alia, that have fans and therefore cover larger areas. But Ionic Breeze works well enough if you are within a few feet of it.
Take a look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_precipitator
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tgritton
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 02:25 |
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| Some Allerair air cleaners have very sizeable activated carbon filters (as well as HEPA) but they are expensive, big, and slow to acquire (seeing that painters are coming tomorrow)
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Sedona
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Posted: Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 01:13 |
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Hello Suecat
I am an artist and I use oil paints. I tried resuming painting before I started the MP.
I had running at the time a HEPA air purifier (Austin Air Healthmate) and other machines to keep the air particles to a minimum but this did not work. I ended up coughing up blood and really paying a hefty price. This is oil on a canvas not walls with wet paint drying. The fumes are unreal even when paint is low voc.
I tried it again years later (by the way I had been doing the MP two years and was feeling great) and it happened again - I coughed up bloody mucous. This time I used a smaller canvas and i didn't use a thinner and I was next to an open door and window.
I will not paint in a closed room and certainly would not be in a room that has been painted because my lungs have already shown me they can't handle it. Not even with air cleaners since this did not prevent a reaction.
Hope this helps.
Last edited on Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 01:17 by Sedona
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Barney
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Posted: Thu Feb 19th, 2009 03:19 |
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I know that this is too late to help you Suecat, but maybe will help others in the future. I am a DIY & HGTV watcher and on their they say there is a 'green' paint that has no odor.
Another thing, my daughter said that one of stores told her that if she put a tablespoon of clear vanilla in the paint.........it would have not odor.
HANG IN THERE, WE WILL MAKE IT!!!!BARNEY
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Posted: Mon Mar 9th, 2009 18:51 |
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I don't know about vanilla -- I think it is just an additional scent to mask the smell of the paint and make the room smell "nicer". But it will not REMOVE the chemicals that the paint are offgassing into your indoor air - simply add a new one in addition.
What Canadian government researchers for the environmentally sensitive suggest is to use a low VOC paint (test first to find the one you tolerate best), and add up to 1 cup of pure baking soda per gallon. Stir well and apply. If very sensitive, do not apply yourself. If very sensitive, stay out of the house (live at a friend's or relatives) until you no longer notice the fumes when you come in from outside.
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