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Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 05:04 |
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Scarlett,
Well Darn!!
Thanks for the response. Pride yourself at understanding the MP and having the knowledge of knowing the difference of complliant & non compliant. ~ Magsmom
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Posted: Mon Sep 15th, 2008 23:32 |
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Has everyone checked Hellman's Light? They sure used to make a version with just egg white ....just last summer .... Living in a really small southern town now ...I have not found Hellman's Light. I have not found any lights at all here .... Everyone sell "Duke" ..... Lee
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Posted: Mon Sep 15th, 2008 23:57 |
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Hellman's? None of these look compliant to me. "Natural Flavors" often means MSG, "Modified corn starch" is another weasel word. High fructose corn syrup, well, that's got a wonderfully high glycemic index that you don't want. Colors? Maybe FDC Yellow? Who knows? The eggs in all but one speak for themselves.
From the Hellman's site: (The first hit on google - and that's a hint, folks - please look things up yourselves and reduce the load on the advocates and moderators)
Hellman's Light
INGREDIENTS: WATER, SOYBEAN OIL, VINEGAR, WHOLE EGGS AND EGG YOLKS, MODIFIED CORN STARCH**, SUGAR, SALT, LEMON JUICE, (SORBIC ACID**, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA) USED TO PROTECT QUALITY, XANTHAN GUM**, PHOSPHORIC ACID**, CITRIC ACID, DL ALPHA TOCOPHEROL ACETATE (VITAMIN E), NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL** FLAVORS (CONTAIN SOY LECITHIN), BETA-CAROTENE** (FOR COLOR), PHYTONADIONE (VITAMIN K), PAPRIKA OLEORESIN.
**INGREDIENTS NOT IN MAYONNAISE.
Hellmann's® Mayonnaise Dressing With Extra Virgin Olive Oil
INGREDIENTS: WATER, OILS (SOYBEAN OIL, EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL*), VINEGAR, WHOLE EGGS AND EGG YOLKS, MODIFIED CORN STARCH*, SUGAR, SALT, LEMON JUICE, (SORBIC ACID*, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA) USED TO PROTECT QUALITY, XANTHAN GUM*, CITRIC ACID*, NATURAL FLAVORS, OLEORESIN PAPRIKA, BETA CAROTENE* (COLOR). GLUTEN-FREE.
*INGREDIENT NOT IN MAYONNAISE
Hellmann's® Canola Cholesterol Free Mayonnaise
INGREDIENTS: WATER, CANOLA OIL**, VINEGAR, MODIFIED CORN STARCH**, WHOLE EGGS AND EGG YOLKS+, SUGAR, SALT, LEMON JUICE, XANTHAN GUM**, (SORBIC ACID**, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA) USED TO PROTECT QUALITY, DL ALPHA TOCOPHEROL ACETATE (VITAMIN E), PHOSPHORIC ACID**, NATURAL FLAVORS (SOY), BETA CAROTENE** (FOR COLOR), CITRIC ACID**, OLEORESIN PAPRIKA, PHYTONADIONE (VITAMIN K).
** INGREDIENT NOT IN MAYONNAISE
+ ADDS A TRIVIAL AMOUNT OF CHOLESTEROL
Hellmann's® Low Fat Mayonnaise
INGREDIENTS: WATER, MODIFIED CORN STARCH*, SOYBEAN OIL, VINEGAR, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP*, EGG WHITES, SALT, SUGAR, XANTHAN GUM*, LEMON AND LIME PEEL FIBERS*, COLORS ADDED*, LACTIC ACID*, (SODIUM BENZOATE*, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA) USED TO PROTECT QUALITY, PHOSPHORIC ACID*, NATURAL FLAVORS. GLUTEN-FREE.
*INGREDIENT NOT IN MAYONNAISE.
My advice? Get domestic and learn to make your own or do without. Cooking is not that hard, and it will give you the flexibility you need.
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Posted: Tue Sep 16th, 2008 13:44 |
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Thanks for the info! Guess it was the Hellman's Low Fat?! I have been on the MP for almost 4 years now and every now and then you have to splurge and have a little real mayo or whatever!! When I found the one with egg white ....I was thrilled! Guess I am still too ill to fathom making my own mayo for the occassional splurge ..... I make all my meals from scratch as it is ..... Lee
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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 17:53 |
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Hi All,
I'm wondering what you think of the following recipe. I've been buying a cereal that is the only one I've found that works for MP. It's now priced at $10 a bag (which does last me a week and a half or so, but still)!!!
I'm thinking I would cut back on the honey some and maybe find some other ingrediant to add. But in general, how does it sound?
dette
Granola
2 cups rolled oats (not instant)
1 cup peanuts or toasted almonds
1/4 cup sesame seeds
1/2 cup coconut, unsweetened
1/4 cup toasted wheat germ [I looked at this in store and I think it is high in folic acid, OK when naturally occuring, not good if supplemented, so not sure in this case]
1/2 cup raisins
1/2 cup dried fruit (dried apricots, craisins and dried apple are all delicious choices)
scant 1/4 cup cooking oil (not olive)
1/2 cup honey
Mix the oat, nuts and grains in a large bowl. Measure oil into the measuring cup and swirl it around before pouring into bowl. Then measure out the honey in the same, unwashed cup. The oil will help the honey exit the cup. Toss everything together until evenly coated and then pour out into a baking pan. I use a large roasting pan, as it keeps everything contained. A cookie sheet with a lip also works, but you have to stir it slightly more carefully if you use that. Bake at 300 degrees for 30 minutes, turning it with a spatula every ten minutes or so. You want everything to be an even golden brown. When it is finished cooking, returned the baked granola to the mixing bowl, add the raisins and fruit and stir to combine. Stir gently several times as it cooks, so that it doesn't clump together too much. Enjoy!
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Posted: Tue Dec 30th, 2008 17:15 |
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I have lost the recipe for faux mashed potatoes. I think that 2 of the ingredients were cauliflower and neufchatel cheese. Can anyone help?
Wishing all a Very Happy Healthy New Year!!! Deleah and Carol
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expate
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Posted: Tue Dec 30th, 2008 17:47 |
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I think this is the one I've used with success.
http://www.recipezaar.com/Creamy-Mashed-Cauliflower-94123
Bon appetit!!!
dette
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Posted: Wed Dec 31st, 2008 21:33 |
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Hi,
I'm wondering why not olive oil [in the granola recipe]? I have had success (and no bad comments from innocent bystanders who eat my cooking) substituting olive oil in EVERYTHING--apple crisp, ersatz cookies, etc. I find that olive oil tastes different from canola oil but does not taste "wrong" unless you think of it as wrong, even with sweet spices etc.
That said, I'd be leery of eating much of the above granola very often... The trick for long-term compliance for me is to build in a tiny bit of leeway without making a habit of it...
Happy healthy eating, Dody
Last edited on Wed Dec 31st, 2008 22:45 by Dody
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Toni D
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Posted: Thu Jan 1st, 2009 10:47 |
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Deleah and Carol,
The recipe you're looking for is in Dana Carpenter's low-carb cookbook. Don't know if you can access it online. I have the book and will rewrite the recipe for you if you can't get it online somewhere. Okay? Just let me know.
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Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 00:01 |
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My mom (Deleah's grandmother), of British descent, makes these delicious scones. Could someone suggest a suitable MP substitute for the shortening (solid Crisco)? I would, of course, use Splenda and Vit D-free milk and flour.
Raisin Scones
2 cups flour
1/3 or more cup sugar
1/3 or more cup shortening
3 tsp baking powder
1/2 tsp baking soda
1 cup raisins
1 cup milk
1 tsp lemon juice
1/2 tsp salt
Sift flour, b powder, salt and sugar together. Cut in shortening and rub to crumbs. Add raisins. Add lemon juice to milk awhile before. Then mix soda with milk. Then add lemon juice/milk mixture to raisin/crumb mixture. Drop by tablespoonfuls onto greased cookie sheet. Bake 400 - 450 degrees F for 10 to 20 minutes or until nicely browned. Yield: about 2 doz.
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expate
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Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 01:53 |
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Well, butter is a solid fat...
dette
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Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 02:18 |
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What an easy answer!! Thanks,  dette!
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Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 02:49 |
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Sounds delicious! ... especially with the butter substitution, yum. 
I hope you can find a flour that doesn't supplement with folic acid too.
If you are looking for other substitutions, Rapadura is supposed to be a wee bit 'healthier' than fully refined sugar. Of course all sugar feeds the bugs and suppresses immune function (and helps with weight gain), so the splenda is a good idea.
I guess the raisins won't be sugar free either. 
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Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 04:02 |
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Joyful,
Our local grocer, Hannaford, is the only store around that sells this D-free flour--otherwise, I don't know what I would do--mail order, I guess, but the shipping would be so high!! Wal*Mart took it off the shelf--for whatever reason--I don't know.
Hodgson Mill ** All Purpose ** Unbleached ** Naturally White Flour
Thanks, Joyful for your insight.......Carol
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Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 05:09 |
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I use the same recipe that JanEE uses for mayonaise but I use olive oil and I also use any kind of vinegar (apple cider, red wine, or plain white vinegar).
I also make ranch dressing out of the mayonaise in the same manner.
I use this mayonaise also, to make 'potato' salad, actually made with cauliflower instead of potatoes. I use my old potato salad recipe but with the MP mayonaise. I use only boiled egg whites in the salad and no yolks.
This sorta puts some oldies but newies back in our diet.
HANG IN THERE, WE WILL MAKE IT!!!BARNEY
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Posted: Sat Jan 10th, 2009 22:54 |
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Hi all,
I am in Phase III and my weight has slowly crept up over the duration. In the past I have tried most all of the major philosophies of eating. When I was competing in athletics I could really notice the impact of dietary changes. Ultimately, over the years I found that limiting simple carbs, eating lots of fruits and vegetables, and meat and cheese worked great.
So here we are on the MP. What I have found during the stretches of feeling awful is that I am hungry for exactly the same things I would want to eat when I get sick with a cold or the flu or whatever. I desire grilled cheese, soup, tapioca pudding, chips, etc. I have absolutely no desire for lean protein or grilled vegetables or salad, etc. I can't imagine that this would ever change and I have no intention of trying to force myself to low carb during these times but wanted to share and see if anyone had similar experience.
Also, interesting to me is that when I have a couple of good days or am cutting back on the MP to take a breather, very quickly I get really hungry for protein. I mean a serious steak or whatever.
So I, like others, am frustrated with the weight gain which is a result of being idle (I try to take long walks as many days per week as I am able) and eating lots more simple carbs. And then it is one more thing to feel badly about when I get frustrated watching the other kids play and I am stuck inside and sick. I am also getting fat and can do nothing about it.
Sorry for the whining.
Greg
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Posted: Sun Jan 11th, 2009 10:19 |
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Hi Greg
No worries about whining.
Just thought I'd share my experience of weight issues during the MP. They seem to follow no rhyme or reason. (I trust you have seen the links of the main site of Some Bacteria can make you fat and some thin (or similar title) - but I know I know, it's not much consolation when your waistline is expanding).
During the course of being sick (a few years) I put on 15kg. This was distressing but my falling apart health was more distressing. Recently, for the second time during the MP, I have lost 5kgs - without it seems, even really trying. i.e. the weight just seemed to fall off (reasonably gradually). But as per the last time this happened (about 12 months ago), it has turned around and started coming back - once again without rhyme or reason. What I mean is, the weight gain and loss doesn't seem to bear any direct correlation to what I am eating or my activity levels (I'm not at the point of being able to exercise yet). So that's my frustrating weight experience.
R.e. cravings - yep, I definitely get carb cravings. Have had a lot of experience of that. And also protein cravings, and cravings explicitly for fat or high fat content foods.
At times I've had insatiable hunger, and at others can't look at food.
So that's my experience. I too get frustrated at putting on weight and not being able to do anything about it. It sucks! But I try to take heart from other people's experiences and that in time, my weight issue will eventually resolve, along with my other health problems. We just have to be patient! (I know, I know, it's VERY hard!!, especially when you have to keep buying new clothes because you don't fit into your old ones).
Hang in there,
k
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Posted: Sun Jan 11th, 2009 10:52 |
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K,
You might try having the larger clothing altered as you lose, instead of purchasing new, at least smaller sizes. Then if and when you gain again, you'll only have the expensive of purchasing larger.
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Posted: Sun Jan 11th, 2009 13:55 |
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The weight fluctuations are hard. I haven't gotten on the scale in months. I can tell there's been some weight gain because ot the way my clothes fit (or don't fit!). I'm just trying to focus on the other (not weight) gains I've made. 
Holidays can be hard re. food consumption. It's not just the quantities but the idea of family and festivity that specific foods hold.
The carb thing is hard. I find it takes more effort and energy to fix veggies that are both palatable (not just the same think over and over) and filling. Maybe gathering a few recipes to try and cooking in a quantity that you can freeze. I made some awesome vegetable beef soup and chicken vegetable soup and froze it. I used turnip instead of potato or rice in the soup (I'm sure it still has carbs but it feels lighter).
As k said, hang in there,
dette
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Posted: Sun Jan 11th, 2009 20:00 |
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Thanks all for the thoughts. A couple things -
Regarding clothes I hang on to the skinny and fat clothes. Then I just wear what fits!
Planning ahead and cooking works some times. But I have had very long stretches of feeling absolutely terrible on the MP. One must have a certain amount of energy to do some cooking and planning which often times I do not have. But the vegetable soup, etc., sounds like a good idea. There are some decent store bought soups if need be.
There are many lengthy discussions about carbs and sugar, etc. I just find it interesting that when I am feeling sick I want toasted white bread and chocolate pudding. I am inclined to think it has to do with what the body needs at that time in terms of energy (glucose) and less of a burden on the digestive system. I am aware of the carb addiction cycle and all that but this is something else.
The bottom line is that on top of the grind of the MP I hate getting fat.
Greg
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