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Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 17:16 |
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I was interested in the different meals and creations MP'ers were making/cooking
to keep themselves satisfied throughout the day. I thought this might be a great medium to help us all stay out of a food rut.
Here's what I had (feel free to critique):
Breakfast: Smoothie: Bananna, Peach, Kiwi,Walnuts, Ice and small amount of Raw Organic Apple juice. Blend it in my Vit-a-mix Blender.
Snack: I usually like some salted nuts Almonds/pistaccio's/Walnuts
Lunch: Ground Turkey Meat some seasonings and cheese (cheddar less than 6% Vit. A) Be creative: I add onions, peppers, a little tapatio (hot sauce).
Snack: Usually some more salted nuts almonds/pistaccio's/Walnuts..etc...
Dinner: I eat a Huge salad: I like to put walnuts/raisens/salt/pepper/cayenne pepper/garlic a whole breast of chicken chopped up and top it with an Extra Virgin Olive Oil and Vinegarette dressing.
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Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 17:43 |
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Good idea Jon!
Breakfast or lunch: Pepperidge Farm mini wheat bagel (no folic acid), Canadian bacon (not the fat of regular bacon), and cheddar cheese slice (heated).
Snack: pecans and Tricuits make a nice flavor combination (no folic acid in Triscuits); pistachios; apple with a cheddar cheese slice
Lunch: Havarti cheese and tomato on Rye Crisp cracker
Dinner: chicken, carmelized onion, apple, with a little anise, curry powder, and cinnamon, with yogurt and a touch of honey, and a side of steamed squash with dill and yogurt/cucumber sauce.
Last edited on Mon Aug 18th, 2008 17:45 by eClaire
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Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 20:33 |
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I finally tried an eggwhite omelet. I was surprized at how good it was. So...
Breakfast: Eggwhite omelet with sauteed onions and melted feta -- I used 2 eggwhites and whipped them up a bit, sauteed onion in olive oil, poured the eggwhites in, let it cook a little before crumbling feta. I also put a little butter for flavor. 
Lunch: Apple, feta, rye-crisp. No imagination. 
Dinner: Baked Chicken with Crispy Skin and Braised Vegetable Medley -- I usually do meat and veg. A typical veggie would be sautee onions in olive oil, add small amount of sweet potato chunks (if I have room for more carbs by evening), sliced red pepper, garlic, deglaze with rice vinegar, add sliced zucchini, a little veggie broth and soy sauce, cover to braise. Add pre-steamed cauliflower, mix well. Finish with butter to thicken.
I like to have a big pile o' veggies to fill me up.
OK, with talk of food and recipes afloat, I expect Knochen to come a-knockin'.
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Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 20:49 |
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Awesome! I already have gained new ideas to build on. Thank you, I hope many more post!!!!
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Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 21:24 |
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Breakfast- toasted brown rice gluten free bread with peanut butter and raspberry jam, a whole apple cut up into 1/4 cup flavoured no d added yogurt, a green tea.
Lunch- 1/4 cup canned beans (like pork and beans but without the pork), a small hamburger patty, a carrot, a small bowl of cherries, a tomato cut up with salt and pepper on it, 12 Eden whole grain corn chips, water.
Dinner- barbecued zuchini, chicken breast with barbecue sauce, big bowl of salad with parmesean cheese and greek olives and homemade garlic dressing.
Snack- homemade oatmeal cookie and a piece of hard white cheddar cheese.
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Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 21:38 |
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It's a very cold summer here in Scotland, so warm food is required! I'm just cooking for me, so it is fairly basic.
Breakfast: usually variations on hot muesli (porridge oats, almond pieces, fresh fruit and yogurt with hot water mixed in)
Lunch: home made soup with 2 oatcakes and farmhouse cheddar and/or salad. Or leftovers from evening before.
Evening meal: lamb or chicken or turkey with any veg and 2 tablespoons of brown basmati rice or couscous. If I am not feeling too strong, for speed I'll simply steam some veg all together then slather them in tahini and dribble with a touch of balsamic vinegar.
When I was really struggling in Phase 1, I cooked a 'rubber chicken' - you start with a roast, then stretch it over several days - have it cold, then in fricasee and other meals and end with soup made from the carcase several days later! Luckily I LOVE chicken!! And had cold chicken a lot because it was all I could do to open the fridge and get it on to a plate with some salad.... before I felt dizzy again!
If I'm still hungry, or I need more bulk, I like a baked apple or pear stuffed with chopped walnuts and a teaspoon of Christmas mincemeat and some mixed spice or Chinese 5 spice - always lifts my spirits, feels sinful without being too sweet. I don't add any sugar - enough in the mincemeat .
Another warmer/filler during the day is a teaspoon of Marmite in a mug of hot water (Marmite is the British equivalent of Australia's Vegemite - do you Statesiders have something similar?)
A lot of the time I just drink hot water straight.
Enjoying everyone's ideas, it is too easy to get into a food rut, when I only have me to cook for, and good to have your inspiration!
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Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 22:43 |
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Statesiders (and I think I can speak for the vast majority of folk in the USA) would NOT be caught dead eating/drinking Vegemite!!!  (I say that as a Statesider with British relatives who has tasted the same and...ugh! And to be real, I'm a statesider who would eat just about anything!) However, I will, probably unlike most Statesiders eat Dulce (but not on the MP). Claire
P.S. I'm enjoying the ideas as well. Perhaps as we put together meals or snacks we can add them to continue to inspire each other.
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Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 23:50 |
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Marmite contains folic acid. Not sure if it's enough to be a problem, or if there are any other hormonal-y things like ergosterol in there since it's made from yeast (they would not need to be listed) . 50% of the RDA fo Folic acid seems a bit much for one serving's worth.
Per 4 g serving of UK Marmite- Energy – 37 kJ/9 kcal
- Protein – 1.5 g
- Carbohydrates – 0.8 g
- of which sugars – trace
- Fat – trace
- of which saturates – trace
- Fibre – 0.1 g
- Sodium – 0.2 g
- Thiamin – 0.23 mg – 16.6 % RDA
- Riboflavin – 0.28 mg – 17.5 % RDA
- Niacin – 6.4 mg – 35.6 % RDA
- Folic Acid – 100 µg – 50.0 % RDA
- Vitamin B12 – 0.6 µg – 20 % RDA (based on recent change in RDA for B12 from 1.0 µg to 3.0µg)
Also see John MacDonald's comments from another posting:
From a quick google search I get the impression that healthy yeast needs [highlight= rgb(255, 255, 136);]ergosterol, hence beer will have [highlight= rgb(255, 255, 136);]ergosterol. http://tinyurl.com/5gk9aa. It makes me think that any yeast related product must have ergosterol, e.g., bread. This link says this:
Standard beers normally contain very low levels of either sitosterol or [highlight= rgb(255, 255, 136);]ergosterol, although some wheat beers that contain high levels of yeast may contain elevated levels of [highlight= rgb(255, 255, 136);]ergosterol.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 03:26 |
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I do remember reading that a whole grain bread would be fine. The science you've posted is a bit more than I personally can make sense of. If there is validity in your statement, we learn more by posting our chosen foods, possibly finding hidden culprits in our choices. That was one of the reasons I started this thread.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 04:27 |
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Hi - the below may be TMI - but welcome feedback. Some soy referenced in product but I think it is in moderation. Are there any other red flags on this item?
Bought a frozen loaf of bread at the health food store called Sprouted 100% whole grain bread "EZeikiel 4:9 and printed verse by Food for Life. Organic grains =
Flourless, low glycemic complete protein/ Org prouted barley/ Org spouted Millet/ Org malted barley/ Org sprouted lentils/ Org sprouted soybeans/ org sprouted spelt / filtered water / fresh yeas / sea salt 80 cal a slice/ total fat 0.5 g or 1%; saturated fat 0, (1%) and trans fat 0, (1%) / Cholesterol 0mg / Sodium 75mg or 3% / Potassium 80 mg / Total Carb 15g or 5% / Fiber 3g or 11% / Sugars 0g / Progein 4g or 8%
Also: A=0, C=0, Calcium =0, Iron 4%. Thiamine 8%, Riboflavin 2%, Niacin 6%, Niacin 6%, Vit B6 4%, Phosporus 8%, Magnesium 6%, Zinc 4% ref to gluten: sprouting promotes the digestibility of grains through enzymatic activity. the product contains naturally occurring gluten found in whole grains such as wheat. - - however, they do carry gluten free products. ~ http://www.foodforlife.com - email: info@foodforlife.com
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 05:18 |
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| Tonight: lettuce salad with white kidney beans, pecans, tomatoes, plums, apples, pineapples, cucumbers, craisins, basil, and a little yogurt and balsamic vinegar. Yummy!
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 08:38 |
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Thanks for the Marmite warning Knochen! I can do without ... thanks for the info - maybe the blind spot in not checking it out for myself (unlike everything else I've rigorously weeded out of my diet), is the giveaway that maybe the bugs love it enough to have tricked my subconscious into thinking it was ok... food for thought: "The bugs made me do it"!
Claire, what are craisins? Haven't come across them before!
Some lovely ideas.... thanks folks!
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 11:12 |
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Magsmom,
You might be interested in the discussion of Ezekiel bread at this thread in CureMyTh1.org.
Odette,
Be aware that any vitamin D occurring naturally in meat is going to be in the fatty parts, including chicken skin! It probably wouldn't be enough to matter to someone with a low 25-D...
Soy sauce is something you might want to reduce.
Julia 
PS This is a mouth-watering thread... 
My biggest problem is snacks. I've always made healthy meals (mostly  ), but find low-carb snacks hard to think of. Any ideas, apart from fresh nuts, which I love but limit due to the Other Bugs (=calories )?
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 13:57 |
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I do remember reading that a whole grain bread would be fine. The science you've posted is a bit more than I personally can make sense of.
I guess the point was that things like bread will likely be OK in terms of ergosterol (a plant hormone we want to avoid on the MP), but that Marmite, which is a concentrated yeast product would probably not be OK. (Marmite is already not OK due to the folic acid, but this just adds another nail to the coffin)
Part of my point was that not everything is labled, and you have to take a slightly paranoid view of everything you put on your plate if you want to do it right.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 14:00 |
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My biggest problem is snacks. I've always made healthy meals (mostly ), but find low-carb snacks hard to think of. Any ideas, apart from fresh nuts, which I love but limit due to the Other Bugs
I'll have something on http://mp-recipes.com/mp_recipes.html for you shortly, Julia. If you like chips (or crisps to you!) these may give you a treat. I will say they are something of a pain to make though. I'll let you know when the recipe is posted - probably a day or two.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 16:32 |
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Julia,
One of my favorite snacks is to roll up sliced smoked turkey breast with a slice of swiss cheese and a tablespoon of home made cole slaw in the center. Very low carb and filling as well. (I sometimes put a dab of dijon mustard on the cole slaw for more flavor)
Another that I've just discovered is to put a low carb taco on a plate, put some cooked taco meat in a line down the middle, top with cheddar cheese and a spoon of salsa. then microwave for a minute. It will be hot so be careful...it takes a minute or so before you can eat it. Top it with fresh lettuce and roll it up to eat.
Yum.
Celery stufferd with whipped cream cheese. (add some blue cheese if you want to be decadent)
(I always check the cheese for Vit. d.....my d levels remain very low and I eat these things frequently)
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 16:43 |
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Pipistrelle, Craisins are cranberries dried like raisins and they are wonderful (sweet and tart...sort of like a dried bing cherry but different, tarter). I much prefer them to raisins of any sort (even better than dried currants).
I don't have a link, but I was listening to an NPR program, I believe, not long ago where they were looking at the loss of nutritional value of food cooked in certain ways. Hands down microwaving seriously reduced the nutrient value of food (making it not a good choice for even reheating food). I have not used a microwave in years. It is really easy to live without one once you get used to it again. It's also one last large gadget in the kitchen, and something to consider.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 17:36 |
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eClaire wrote: Craisins are cranberries dried like raisins
Note the added sugar in craisins. They are yummy, but don'y give into the temptation to eat them by the handful. Lotsa carbs.
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Claire
I'd no idea microwaving destroyed nutrients - I thought it was supposed to preserve them! Help, how else do you cook vegetables? Surely, going back to old-fashioned boiling sends all the nutrients into the water? I love baking them, but you can't bake cabbage! And if you don't already have the oven on, it's wasteful. What do you do?
Diana,
Thanks for the ideas, though those sound more like a complete lunch to me! I mean, what finger food can you grab with your coffee/water/whatever, when you're sitting at the computer or reading, and just need a nibble to fill a hole until the next meal? My favourite is a digestive biscuit (no idea what you'd call that - wholewheat cookie perhaps?), sometimes with a bit of cheese. But it doesn't qualify as low carb. And I badly need to lose weight
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 19:17 |
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Knochen wrote: I guess the point was that things like bread will likely be OK in terms of ergosterol (a plant hormone we want to avoid on the MP), but that Marmite, which is a concentrated yeast product would probably not be OK. (Marmite is already not OK due to the folic acid, but this just adds another nail to the coffin)
Part of my point was that not everything is labled, and you have to take a slightly paranoid view of everything you put on your plate if you want to do it right.
The topic of marmite and vegemite came up back in 2006, please see THIS thread on the main MP board. Unlike Marmite, Vegemite does not have folic acid added, and is available in standard UK supermarkets.
Trevor said: The key is that the amount of Vegemite you use is so very small. You don't spread it like peanut butter I can't say I ever recall having had trouble with Vegemite when I was ill, and these days I occasionally use it as a nice low-cal spread to flavor my low-carb tortillas,
What I don't think US people realise is that you use a tiny amount of these spreads. It's probably why Americans and Canadians don't like it - they try too much of the stuff!
So in this case, you can be TOO paranoid.
NB. If you spread it on gluten free toast, some weird chemical reaction occurs and it reeks. Word of warning...
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